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What's about the cause of making oxalate from ascorbic acid or from the amino acid glycine?

I can't find anything explaining it... So it's an addition to what we ingest from some plants!

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The question was specifically about dietary oxalate, so that is what I answered.

I covered vitamin C and oxalate here:

https://chrismasterjohnphd.substack.com/p/balancing-vitamin-c-and-glutathione-d6f

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May 19, 2023Liked by Chris Masterjohn, PhD

Thanks for the link 🙏

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May 19, 2023Liked by Chris Masterjohn, PhD

I hope will cover the glycine one day as well!

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For sure!

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Any other than potassium in form of citrate? Some say citrates are not good for our copper absorption, and I have also read that low copper is linked to having oxalate issues!

So is it ok to use potassium bicarbonate or chlorate?

Bicarbonate has the problem to need an acid in the stomach and Kcl can easily be used to mix with NaCl. Right?

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Bicarbonate should work on an empty stomach ideally, though I prefer potassium on full stomach and am skeptical of the digestive safety of bicarbonate on full stomach.

Chloride absolutely not. Totally useless for this purpose.

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May 19, 2023Liked by Chris Masterjohn, PhD

I do understand the role of citrate for the topic of oxalate, but as it's not the only reason to need potassium...

Before leg cramps I get more difficulties to hold a full bladder.

I am on high thiamine and need both salt of sodium and potassium.

BTW your topic about methylation is well done and I wonder if you have made something around methylation + thiamine issues!

I wonder if also being low methylators could facilitate having a thiamine deficiency, in particular due to transport issue. It seems to both give a proteins issue...

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I don't get why the chloride form of salt wouldn't give us potassium.

It also removes my leg cramps.

I was using citrate before but wanted to limit citrates because of its supposed effect on copper!

🤔🤦🏼‍♀️

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The question was about kidney stones. Choride will not help and it has nothing to do with potassium. It is that chloride acts like salt.

You probably need more salt, or you just particularly need chloride, independent of the potassium.

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Chloride, opps not chlorate hehe... 👍🏻

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